Re: Greer: “Pentagon Plans ET Hoax” - Lewis
From: Stephen Miles Lewis <ufoupdates@elfis.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:27:20 -0600
Fwd Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:44:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Greer: “Pentagon Plans ET Hoax” - Lewis>Source: Global Village News and Resources

>http://www.gvnr.com/74/editorial.htm
>Issue 74 - November 17, 2003

>Pentagon Plans ET Hoax

>Qaeda to ET’s - The Search For Bogeymen
>by
>Steven M. Greer MD
>Director, The Disclosure Project

“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los
Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This
is especially true if they were told that there were an outside
threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that
threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of
the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one
thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this
scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for
the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World
Government.”

Henry Kissinger - 1991 Bilderberger conference, Evians, France.

Greetings UFOlks,

It’s more than a little ironic for me to be “defending” Greer on
this issue as I was never a fan of his until he published this
white paper (and a different pre 911 version I believe) where
he warned about the spin the Government, Military, Industrial
Complex/Intelligence Community might put on their eventual
release of “the truth” about UFOs as alien technology.

However, I have always agreed with Greer’s detractors that his
mixing multiple issues (each deserving their own focus, IMO)
into his attempts at getting the Government to acknowledge “the
reality of UFOs”, ultimately sabotages those efforts.

But as for this issue of Shadowy Cabals and UFO Deceptions …
there is more to it than some on this List seem willing to
acknowledge.

Firstly, I think it should be pointed out that this same article
by Greer appeared on this list back in June 2002: Cosmic
Deception: Let The Citizen Beware

http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2002/jun/m13-010.shtml

And a transcript of his discussion of this topic with Art Bell
can be found here

http://www.disclosureproject.org/artbelljune172002.htm

Secondly, this issue of the actual and potential human hand in
misusing UFO mimicry technologies and techniques is well
established by researchers like Jacques Vallee and other
authors. See his 1979 Messengers of Deception, 1975 Invisible
College but more recently in his 1991 book Revelations and his
1996 novel Fastwalker. (excerpt/citation 1 below)

Thirdly, upon which fronts might our listers object to the
various “Manufactured Enemy” hypotheses, whether they relate to
Staged Alien Invasions, British “Martian” Strategems or 911
Parapolitical Fact? The individual accusations within Greer’s
declaration? Or Greer himself? Apparently it is simply on Greer
himself as much of what he discusses in this article is
legitimate and of much concern.

… on the very issue of whether groups of humans have ever
considered manufacturing enemies:

Within the ParaUfological realms…

In Vallee’s 1979 MoD he cites the declassified info in the
excellent book on WWII disinformation machinery, Bodyguard of
Lies, that describes the massive “double cross” efforts of the
LCS, London Controlling Section (referred to by the Brits as the
“Martians”) that facilitated the allied victory. He speculates
about these same Psy-Op tactics and technologies continuing
their disinformation efforts after the war - only this time to
prevent another World War by uniting humanity against a common
enemy. Vallee goes on to document the common military tactic and
meme of manufacturing an enemy in order to rally populations for
into a unified force, whether it be to start a war with the
perceived enemy or to prevent a war by uniting countries against
a common outside threat, be it “Terrorism” or
“Extraterrestrials”. He cites several late 1940s era science
fiction novels dealing with the theme of using an
extraterrestrial threat to unite the world. He cites the
infamous Report From Iron Mountain hoax which outlines an
allegedly tongue-in-cheek thesis for why war is the best way to
ensure economic stability and how the invention of threats, be
they extraterrestrial or ecological, would be necessary.

Report From Iron Mountain

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/iron.html (excerpt/citation 2 below)

Within the ParaPolitical realms…

There are countless examples of the use of scapegoating to
accomplish the rallying of the people against an enemy, this
idea is commonly referred to as Strategies of Tension and
Hegelian Dialectic, Problem Reaction Solution. Some examples:

911: What Aren’t We Being Told? Analysis by John Judge January 2002
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/911jan2002.html#0119a
(excerpt/citation 3 below)
Relevance of Antonio Negri to the Anti-Globalization Movement
http://www.notbored.org/negri.html (excerpt/citation 4 below)
Italy’s Strategy of Tension
http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,7369,528118,00.html
Threats to Democracy: The Radical Right in Italy After the War
http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5918.html (excerpt/citation 5 below)
Operation Gladio : U.S. & NATO Support for Fascist Terror in Italy
http://www.freedomdomain.com/Catalog/cataudio.htm (excerpt/citation
6 below)
Mae Brussell on the Strategy of Tension
http://www.conspire.com/emorevil.html (excerpt/citation 7 below)

Hegelian Dialectic/Staged Attacks including…
Rome, Maine, Reichstag, Pearl Harbor, USS Liberty, Gulf of Tonkin
Vietnam, 1993 WTC bombing, 911, Russian FSB Bombings and on and on …
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge#northwoods

Most recently we have had horrific documentary evidence of our
own Government’s Military Industrial/Intelligence Complex
intention and willingness to kill its own American citizens and
blame it on the Cubans as a pretext for war. Sound far-fetched?
This was reported by James Bamford in his 2000/2001 NYT best-
seller, Body of Secrets that revealed the existence of the
Operation Northwoods documents wherein the Joint Chiefs of staff
plotted to do just about everything that has “coincidentally”
come to pass on and since 911; destroying airliners, killing the
Americans onboard, sniper attacks in DC, destruction of
America’s premier spacecraft, and other staged terror attacks.

The authenticity of the Operation Northwoods document has not
been questioned in any mainstream fashion though it was
acknoweldged pre 911 in news articles by ABCnews, the Baltimore
Sun and the previously cited Bamford book.

ABCnews - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to
Provoke War With Cuba
http://propagandamatrix.com/ us_military_drafted_plans_to_terrorize_us_cities/
Baltimore Sun - U.S. terror plan called Cuba invasion pretext
http://propagandamatrix.com/us_terror_plan_cuba_invasion_pretext.html
Excerpt from Body of Secrets by James Bamford on Operation Northwoods
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html (excerpts/
citations 8 below)

Most importantly though, PDF copies of the document and comments
on it are archived in the National Security Archive at George
Washington University and are available through its website:

Pentagon Proposed Pretexts for Cuba Invasion in 1962
Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba [includes
cover memoranda], March 13, 1962, TOP SECRET, 15 pp.
http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/news/20010430/ (excerpt/citation
9 below)
http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

… on the issue of UFO-like technologies that could be used to
imitate the phenomenon or stage UFO events and encounters,
consider the military and commercial development of such
psychotronic and non-lethal technologies as the VeriChip
(implantable, trackable, sub-dermal microchip), Hyper-Sonice
Sound System (implanting of voices in the head remotely), Human
and Vehicular Immobilization Technology (car stopping and body
paralyzing beams), etc., in relation to events described in

reports of UFO encounter and abduction narratives.
http://www.adsx.com/prodservpart/verichip.html
http://www.woodynorris.com/Articles/Newsweek3.htm (excerpt/citation
10 below)http://www.hsvt.org
http://www.thebulletin.org/issues/1994/so94/so94Aftergood.html&e=747

And of course there is a lot of information on the Psy-Ops use of
holography:

Counterfeit Foe - The Ultimate Hegelian Dialectic by Paul Joseph Watson
http://www.PropagandaMatrix.com/counterfeit_foe.html (excerpt/
citation 11 below)
Holograms and High Strangeness by Scott Corrales
http://fatemag.com/200303March.html
Jacques Vallee interview on UFO Deception and Holograms
http://conspire.com/val3.html

Finally, at the very least we know that the Air Force HAS used the veil
of ridicule associated with the UFO subject and the tools of
disinformation to keep hidden certain black budget activities secret;
examples would be the Air Force labeling sightings of the then secret
U2 spy plane as actual UFOs and the infamous case of Paul Bennewitz
being driven into madness at the hands of AFOSI officers and ufologist
Bill Moore.

Nuff said for now.

SMiles
“Paranoia Pays, But the Hours Suck”
———-

Notes/Excerpts/Citations

1 - Jacques Vallee on UFO Deception Theory

From an interview in Jonathan Vankin’s 70 Greatest Conspiracies

The military may be experimenting with psychological warfare
techniques, as the Germans did in World War I, when they
projected images of the Virgin Mary on banks of smoke in an
effort to spook the French into saying their Rosaries instead of
killing Germans. Vallee also thinks that sham UFO reports might
be used as cover for tests of new military stealth technology.

But the most troubling “deception theory” Vallee poses is that
from time to time, the target of UFO hoaxes might be the general
public, or a segment thereof.

“In some cases,” he says, “the community of ufologists may
simply be used in a sociological experiment because they are a
convenient group of people to test, to see how they react to
different rumors.”

Sounds a bit improbable, but Vallee’s research into the growth
of UFO “contactee” cults is suggests that such manipulation
occurs. In his book, Messengers of Deception, Vallee explored
the rise of a new kind of religious movement throughout the
world: the UFO Messiah cults, in which believers await the
coming of bubble-headed saviors in saucers. You can find these
groups in Europe and the Americas, in increasing numbers.

60GCAT: So there might be military applications for this
technology of deception?

Vallee: Our gods have always come from the sky. And how would a
god come from the sky today? He would come down in some kind of
space ship. He couldn’t just appear out of the clouds, I mean,
that won’t work. Although in World War I the Germans were using
psychological warfare by projecting photographs, slides, along
French lines. And I’m sure the French were doing the same thing
to the Germans. And there are very sophisticated devices now
being used in psychological warfare to create holograms, to
create visions to influence people.
http://conspire.com/val3.html

Jacques Vallee on the Human Misuse of UFOs for Deception and
Mass Control

“I believe there is a machinery of mass manipulation behind the
UFO phenomenon. It aims at social and political goals by
diverting attention from some human problems and by providing a
potential release for tensions caused by others. The contactees
are part of that machinery. They are helping to create a new
form of belief: an expectation of actual contact among large
parts of the public. In turn this expectation makes millions of
people hope for the imminentrealization of that age-old dream:
salvation from above, surrender to the greater power of some
wise navigators of the cosmos. . . . However, if you take the
trouble to join me in the analysis of the modern UFO myth, you
will see human beings under the control of a strange force that
is bending them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a
bizarre game of deception. This role may be very important if
changing social conditions make it desirable to focus the
attention of the public on the distant stars while obsolete
human institutions are wiped out and rebuilt in new ways. Is
this the deeper meaning of the UFO `deception’? Are the
manipulators, in the final analysis, nothing more than a group
of humans who have mastered a very advanced form of power? . . .
Let me summarize my conclusions thus far. UFOs are real. They
are an application of psychotronic technology; that is, they are
physical devices used to affect human consciousness. They may
not be from outer space; they may, in fact, be terrestrial-based
manipulating devices. Their purpose may be to achieve social
changes on this planet.” Jacques Vallee, from Messengers of
Deception

Simon Harvey-Wilson on Vallee’s book Revelations and French UFO
Deceptions

Cergy-Pontoise. Even if various government are involved in UFO
deception, their motives and methods may vary considerably. The
apparent abduction of Franck Fontaine at Cergy-Pontoise on the
outskirts of Paris in November 1979 is a good example. The story
is quite complex and is described in several UFO books (Evans,
1984). Franck and a couple of his friends were loading their
car with clothes to sell on their stall in a market about sixty
kilometres away. They had got up before dawn and, while the
others brought the clothes down from their flat, Franck remained
in the car to stop it stalling. They then saw a brilliantly
shining UFO and several smaller lights near the car and, after
some confusion, Franck was found to be missing. The incident was
reported to the police and received nation-wide publicity. One
week later Franck reappeared near where he had disappeared and
was amazed to discover that he had been missing for so long.
Most books that mention it leave the case open, however in
Jacques Vallee’s book Revelations: Alien Contact and Human
Deception (1991, p.149) we get quite a different story. Vallee
quotes an unnamed official from French Air Force headquarters
who, in November 1980, admitted that the Cergy-Pontoise
abduction had actually been carried out by the French government
in order to observe the reactions and behaviour of the police,
media, scientific investigators and the public. The abduction
had been authorised by a member of the French cabinet and no
more than fifteen people knew what had happened. Franck Fontaine
had been grabbed, kept drugged in a secure place for a week and
then returned to where he had been abducted without knowing what
had really happened to him. Vallee advises that, to eliminate
such official deception in future, abductees should be promptly
checked for syringe marks and given blood and urine tests to
check for any knockout drugs. If Vallee’s report is true, we
have the ironic situation of a leading Western government trying
to fool the public into thinking that UFO abductions do exist,
rather that their usual denials. The question that ufologists
may need to ask themselves now, is whether other countries carry
out similar fake abductions to assess public reactions, and if
so, how often do they do it? UFOs, Disinformation and Deception
by Simon Harvey-Wilson Journal of Alternative Realities Vol 8,
Issue 1, 2000 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~amilani/jour8.html

2 - Report From Iron Mountain

The report included a number of recommendations that the
government should follow just in case peace did break out. For
instance, it suggested that a number of expensive institutions
be created that would mimic the economic function of a war, such
as: “(a) A comprehensive social-welfare program, directed toward
maximum improvement of general conditions of human life. (b) A
giant open-end space research program, aimed at unreachable
targets. (c) A permanent, ritualized, ultra-elaborate
disarmament inspection system, and variant of such a system.”

The report also recommended that the government invent
“alternate enemies.” For instance, it could mobilize the
population by scaring them with reports of extraterrestrial
threats, massive global environmental pollution, or “an
omnipresent, virtually omnipotent international police force.”
Alternatively, the population could be roused by “socially
oriented blood games” done “in the manner of the Spanish
Inquisition and the witch trials of other periods.”
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/iron.html

3 - 911: What Aren’t We Being Told? Analysis by John Judge
January 2002

“The planning for “terrorist attacks” and the domestic and
international response has been going on for nearly 30 years
now, with rising levels of sophistication and demand for
control. . . .

There were many things that could have been done differently in
the last 30 years to end war, terrorism and violence worldwide.
The United States not only failed to do them, it often did the
opposite. But building a military/intelligence/security
apparatus as the sole response possible or desireable insures
much more profit, social control and ultimate concentration of
power than the path that might lead to real security and peace.
Those wishing the latter were rarely consulted by the planners.

At some point, did all this preparatory thinking come to be
self-fulfilling prophecy awaiting only it’s triggering incident?
We have many other examples of this same apparatus both
encouraging and standing aside for other violent actions that
became the excuse for repressive responses. In Europe it is
known as a “strategy of tension” that ultimately puts the hired
guns in charge of the ranch.”
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/911jan2002.html#01
19a

[See also John Judge, The Strategy of Tension. Lecture at
Fellowship of Humanity, Oakland, Ca 9/19/02]

4 - Relevance of Antonio Negri to the Anti-Globalization
Movement

What’s missing from the usual biographies of Toni Negri is the
charge that it took him far too long to come to the now commonly
accepted conclusions that 1) the terrorist campaign inaugurated
by the bombing of the Piazza Fontana in Milano on 12 December
1969 wasn’t the work of either the far-left (the anarchists) or
the far-right (the fascists), but the Italian secret services;
and 2) this campaign — now called “the strategy of tension” –
wasn’t undertaken to destabilize or topple the government, but
to provide a pretext for its most reactionary elements to
strengthen themselves against an increasingly strong and
effective working class movement. The situationist Gianfranco
Sanguinetti came to these conclusions as early as 19 December
1969, when he published the extraordinary tract Is the Reichstag
Burning? In the following years, as State-sponsored terrorism
against targets in Italy became more common and more obvious,
Sanguinetti returned to the subject a couple of times: first in
The True Report on the Last Chance to Save Capitalism in Italy
(published in July 1975 and reprinted many times afterwards),
and then again in Remedy to Everything (also known as On
Terrorism and the State), which was published in Italy in 1979
and in France in 1980. Relentlessly persecuted by the Italian
government for his writings, Sanguinetti was vindicated in 1982,
when the so-called P2 scandal brought to light documents that
irrefutably proved that the Italian government had indeed been
employing “the strategy of tension” since the end of the 1960s
and through-out the 1970s. http://www.notbored.org/negri.html

5 - Threats to Democracy: The Radical Right in Italy After the
War, Chapters 4 thru 6

This book represents the first systematic research by a social
scientist on the radical right-wing movements in Italy since
1945. During the heyday of right-wing violence between 1969 and
1980, street aggressions, attacks, and murders were commonplace.
These bloody episodes were assumed to be the work of fanatical
bands of “political soldiers” and urban warriors loosely
controlled by secret services and other covert groups, which
used them as part of a “strategy of tension” pursued in domestic
and international circles. Franco Ferraresi here acknowledges
that these rightist groups were in fact permitted a certain
amount of freedom, and even in some cases actually aided, in the
hope that revulsion at terrorist tactics would have the effect
of mobilizing public opinion in favor of existing political
arrangements. However, he also studies the extent to which they
operated as autonomous units, while he carefully considers the
political heritage, the doctrines, and the ideology that
motivated them.

With the decline of violent activity on both extremes of the
political spectrum in the early 1980s, the theory and practice
so comprehensively discussed by Ferraresi seemed to have entered
a dormant stage. Ferraresi, however, places in context the
recent resurgence of neo-fascist forces in Italy, and of the so-
called New Right throughout Europe, together with the rise of
fundamentalism in many parts of the world.
http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5918.html

The Strategy of Tension: Background and Precedents, Strategy of
Tension: A Case Study, High Point of the Strategy of Tension:
Attempted Coups and Massacres, 1970-1975.
http://pup.princeton.edu/TOCs/c5918.html

6 - Operation Gladio : U.S. & NATO Support for Fascist Terror in
Italy

Compares a CIA/NATO contingency plan and the “Strategy of
Tension” terror program highlighted in RFA19. Right-Wing
Guerrila groups created to oppose a communist takeover in Italy
or a Soviet invasion of Europe, gave rise to bombings,
kidnappings and assassinations in Italy. This program of Terror
was intimately connected to The Italian P-2 Masonic Lodge
discussed in RFA 18 & 19–2-90 Min.–$8.00
http://www.freedomdomain.com/Catalog/cataudio.htm

7 - Mae Brussell on the Strategy of Tension

Transcribed excerpt (by the ever-active Brian Redman of
Conspiracy Nation fame) from a broadcast by Dave Emory on KFJC
radio in Los Altos Hills, California. In this show, Emory
discusses the 1987 book, The Ultimate Evil, journalist Maury
Terry’s investigation of the Son of Sam murders.

Mae Brussell has been pointing out, for a number of years, her
thesis — which has endured, by the way, a lot of scorn at the
hands of many people — that in fact all of these serial killers
were, in fact, a form of agent provocateur. What this is,
basically, according to Mae’s thesis (and it appears to be borne
out in terrifying fashion and degree by this particular book) is
that this is a type of application of the “strategy of tension”.
That is you take a society and you unleash all of these
horrendous screwball killers — or killers we’re told are
screwballs — it has the effect of driving the political
spectrum to the “right”. People want “law and order”. They want
stronger laws, more cops, more jails, quicker capital
punishment. And in general, it predisposes them to accepting the
incredible. It’s just, “Well with all those ‘nuts’ out there,
you never know who’s gonna do what.” So, if 900 people “commit
suicide” in the jungle under preposterous circumstances, or if
“lone nuts” come foreward and begin killing politicians, it…
there’s a context in which that occurs.

But again, this is a way of driving people to the “right”. These
horrible killings, these apparent screwballs running all over
the place, just gives the impression of a society that is
decaying. “What we need is ‘law and order.’” “We need a
Fuehrer.” “We need someone to set this right.” We need…….
George Bush!! http://www.conspire.com/emorevil.html

8 - Operation Northwoods media attention

ABCnews - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities
to Provoke War With Cuba: In the early 1960s, America’s top
military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent
people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create
public support for a war against Cuba.
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/
us_military_drafted_plans_to_terrorize_us_cities/

Baltimore Sun - New book on NSA sheds light on secrets - U.S.
terror plan called Cuba invasion pretext: U.S. military leaders
proposed in 1962 a secret plan to commit terrorist acts against
Americans and blame Cuba to create a pretext for invasion and
the ouster of Communist leader Fidel Castro, according to a new
book about the National Security Agency.
http://propagandamatrix.com/us_terror_plan_cuba_invasion_pretext
.html

BODY OF SECRETS, James Bamford, Doubleday, 2001, p.82 and
following. Scanned and edited by NY Transfer News.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html

[Of course you don't see ABCnews or other news services
reporting on this post 911. Instead you see them selling you the
lies of the Warren Commission's whitewash of the JFK
Assassination/Coup.]

9 - Operation Northwoods documents obtained via FOIA

April 30, 2001 - Pentagon Proposed Pretexts for Cuba Invasion in
1962

In his new expose of the National Security Agency entitled Body
of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals
on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION
NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S.
Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to
Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the
key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request
from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the
Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer
various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba.
These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as
Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of
Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist
Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities
and even in Washington,” including “sink[ing] a boatload of
Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce
attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the
Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and
then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself
writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan
ever created by the U.S. government.” Chairman, Joint Chiefs of
Staff, Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba
[includes cover memoranda], March 13, 1962, TOP SECRET, 15 pp.
http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/news/20010430/
http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

10 - Psychotronic “Mind Kontrol” Technologies

Hyper-Sonic Sound System (HSS), a Device That Can Put Words
Inside Your Head from 100 Yards Away. Woody Norris wants to tell
you something_and he can put the words inside your head from 100
yards away by Jamie Reno and N’gai Croal NEWSWEEK Aug.5, 2002
http://www.woodynorris.com/Articles/Newsweek3.htm

11 - Counterfeit Foe - The Ultimate Hegelian Dialectic by Paul
Joseph Watson

Military-industrial psy-ops has considered such programs before

Let’s delve into the evidence of how technological deception has
been considered before, as a means of misleading populations.
The Kennedy era, anti-Castro covert action plan Operation
Mongoose was designed to destabilize Cuban society and turn it
against Fidel Castro. Under the umbrella of this strategy was a
program dubbed ‘Elimination by Illumination.’ It is found in the
Congressional Record, in “Alleged Assassination Plots Involving
Foreign Leaders, Interim Report of the Select Committee to Study
Government Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities,”
November 20, 1975. The plan was developed by an American
Intelligence military psy-op specialist named Edward Lansdale.

The operation was to have an American Submarine surface inside
Havana harbor at night and project a movie of a Jesus-like
figure on the underside of the low-lying clouds that form over
the harbor at night. A plane with muffled motors was to have
circled just above the clouds while another operative with a
loudspeaker exhorted the Cubans below to overthrow “Godless
Communism.”

The plan was never put into action but was seriously considered
and, as stated, remains in the Congressional Record to this day.

An almost exact replica of this proposal came to light in a June
2000 Sydney Morning Herald report.

In 1991 during the Gulf War, top brass of the US Air Force drew
up plans to project a giant holographic image of Allah over
Baghdad. The scale of the project dictated a mirror several
kilometres across up in space. However, a more practical method
was suggested. When warm air lies on top of cold air, the
difference in density is enough to bend light. At higher
altitudes, a mirage can make whole landscapes appear in the sky.
An artificial mirage could in theory be made by heating the
atmosphere with radio waves or microwaves. The USAF then had the
problem of making the image appear to speak. They postulated, “a
pulse stream, an internal acoustic field of 5- 15KHz can be
created which is audible. Thus it may be possible to ‘talk’ to
adversaries in a way which would be most disturbing to them.”

http://www.PropagandaMatrix.com/counterfeit_foe.html

Re: Pravda - 09-00 To 06-01 US Fighters Scrambled
From: Stephen MILES Lewis <@elfis.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:30:58 -0600
Fwd Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:48:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Pravda - 09-00 To 06-01 US Fighters Scrambled

>From: Frank Warren <frank-warren>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:52:24 -0800
>Subject: Pravda - 09-00 To 06-01 US Fighters Scrambled 67 Times >Source: Pravda

>http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=47676

>12-10-03

>Between September 2000 and June 2001, US fighters launched 67
>times to escort aircraft.

To clarify … the above link is to a repost in the Pravda
forums of the original article here:

Pentagon says 911 Interceptors flew: Too Far, too slow, too late
by William Thomas 19 November 2003
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/THO311B.html

I trust Global Research a lot further than I trust Pravda.

The article is not directly UFO-related, tho it is an important
part to understanding the true nature of the events of September
11th. It has been suggested by researchers I respect implicitly
that the exercises cited below could have been used to confuse
and effectively “Stand Down” NORAD and other quick response
military and / or to keep George Bush out of the communications
loop that fateful day because, allegedly, the control center of
the operations are the sub-contractors for AirForce
One/Presidential communications.

“On 9/11, CIA Was Running Simulation of a Plane Crashing into a
Building

Associated Press picks up story first reported by The Memory
Hole [see below]

Here’s another admission which destroys the government’s lie
that it couldn’t possibly have foreseen the use of planes to ram
buildings.

The National Law Enforcement and Security Institute will be
holding a conference called “Homeland Security: America’s
Leadership Challenge” in Chicago on 6 Sept 2002. The star
speaker is Rudolph Giuliani. One of the other speakers is CIA
man John Fulton. Here is the crucial sentence from the
promotional literature for the conference:

On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team
at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the
emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were
to strike a building.One week after The Memory Hole first reported this story (14
August 2002), it was picked up by the Associated Press in the
following article:

Agency planned drill for plane crash last Sept. 11 - Associated
Press

August 22, 2002″

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm

And

911 “War Games” by the US military before and during the attacks
– intentional confusion of air defenses that enabled the stand
down?

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

AND

John Judge on the 911 Strategy of Tension (37 minutes of John
Judge’s parapoltical perspective, living in DC and experiencing
the 911 Pentagon attacks and the probable NORAD “stand down”)

http://www.parapolitics.info/copa/copa2002gallery/JohnJudge911.ram

SMiles

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject:
Hocus Locus wrote: But someone else was watching on that night too. Perhaps the day it was first broadcast. In 1978 the Towers were shiny and new. In 1965, Scandinavian Airlines Flight 911 had been flying into Manhattan in the darkness.And this person, this framer of 9/11, wondered, How could we use this? Use this ‘Trigger Effect’, and its corresponding confusion, the malleability of populations…? What about the AJ interview with Greg Szymanski (I know … Fintan’s Fake List member) about an alleged 911 plan dating back to 1976: The Perfect Terrorist Plan To Level The Twin Towers Created In 1976 American Free Press/Greg Szymanski | March 20 2005 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/200305terroristplan.htm Quote: Exact 9/11 Attack Plan Drilled In 1976Our own U.S. Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WTC using commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons. Alex talks with Greg Szymanski of the American Free Press about the latest September 11th revelations. Related: The Perfect Terrorist Plan To Level The Twin Towers Created In 1976 http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/210305szymanski.mp3 To my knowledge, Alex never interviewed this guy that Greg talked about. But this seems like something that could be checked. SMiles

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=734&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject:
Fintan, I’m sure you are familiar with parapsychology research and precognition phenomena.While I find your analysis of The Coup cover to be worthy of consideration, how do you weigh the possibilities between a PsyOp and a PsiOp?I know at least 3 people who personally had what most would conisder precognitive dreams of 911 either the morning of the event or in weeks prior. In my research on “911 fore-knowledge” I’ve found lots of evidence for paranormal and parapolitical presentiment of the attacks: DreamPodcast #2 - Premonitions of 911: http://www.elfis.net/phorum/read.php?f=3&i=44&t=44 Paranormal instances range from precog dreams, waking visions, to the parapsychological data from scientists like Dean Radin and the Global Consciousness Project folks at noosphere.princeton.edu and other examples. The previously mentioned album covers as well as other artistic expressions have also been noted. Parapolitical instances of witnesses / evidence indicating probable fore-knowledge include parapolitical researcher John Judge’s fellow researcher and American Airlines stewardess, “T. Carter”, who says she saw the hijackers casing her plane before 911. The previously cited John Woods example has been around since 2002 and note that Woods was “rewarded” for his support of the MSM 911 Myth by his getting to play the role of Rudolph Gulliani in the post-911 made for tv movie about the mayor. Anyway … here are a couple of posts I did some time back about the intersection of “real” precognitive 911 stuff and the possibilities inherant in the knowledge that Intel agencies have used both “real” and fake psychics as outlets for disinfo: Re: The Lone Gunmen Prophecy Hi Kenn (Thomas), I absolutely agree with your assertion that these shows have stolen ideas from the research of you and our mutual friends. Having worked at the computer game company ORIGIN Systems ten years ago I know very well that there are Forteans and ParaPolitically minded creative types within the industry who get their inspiration from the pages of yours and others books and research. And I wasn’t suggesting one had to be psychic to precognitively grok the planes into buildings meme. I was simply citing evidence that suggests that psychics (whether real or fake) have been used as intelligence assetts by the US Govt to seed disinfo and to gain info from their confidantes and clients: “Psychic Jeane Dixon Was FBI Stooge” http://lists.village.virginia.edu/lists_archive/sixties-l/2335.html [I have the archived html and FOIA docs saved at home) I’m well aware of the pre-911 imagery and news reports involving planes as missiles and planes into buildings: “A man, drives a plane, into the Chrysler building” - Lyric from the song “Is Chicago, Is Not Chicago” by the band Soul Coughing, released in September 1994. http://www.parapolitics.info/media/911podcast050826.mp3 Hip Hop Band THE COUP album cover (no planes) http://www.elfis.net/images/911images/coup-cover-300.jpg This suggestive German album cover (with planes near WTC) http://www.elfis.net/images/911images/foreseeing_the_future.jpg And this suggestive Pre-911 Computer game box fro “RED ALERT 2″ (with planes near WTC) http://www.parapolitics.info/images/ra2box_0002pre911.jpg The various pre 911 “WTC as Target” report covers http://www.parapolitics.info/images/wtctargetpre911.jpg The Austin, Texas based Steve Jackson Games pre 911 “Illuminati” card game cards http://www.parapolitics.info/images/911/WTCcardgame.jpg http://www.parapolitics.info/images/911/wtcpentagoncardgame.jpg And this cartoonists bit (not sure if this is pre 911) http://www.parapolitics.info/images/911/wtc.gif I’ve also seen pics of a calendar that was printed in Asia that featured a drawing of a plane flying towards the twin towers and of course there is this strange pic on a refridgerator in a GE advert from an Italian magazine circa April 2001: http://www.metatech.org/Images/ge-ad.gif There was also the November 1993 Hustler Magazine pic obviously inspired by the first WTC (FBI enabled) attack: http://www.metatech.org/Images/WTC%20&%201993%20Hustler%20Mag.jpg However, I am unaware of any Bruce Willis movies dealing with that theme directly (The first Die Hard movie featured helicopters accidentally slamming into buildings, as did The Matrix and other films. Die Hard 2 featured the switching of transponders to cause airliners to crash which is apparently an old intel trick). SMiles AND … The thing about this Lone Gunmen pilot episode is that nearly precisely mirrors at least one varient of the 911 conspiracy theory: that the planes were remotely piloted in a false flag “terror attack” whose impetus was American Police State and American Hegemony at the behest of the MICkey Complex. And according to actor Dean Haglund, he was told by Chris Carter that a Hollywood psychic had fessed up to being used by Intel assets to seed hollywood writers with script ideas: “Haglund stated that after years of writing the X-files, the FBI and NASA would approach Chris Carter with plots for stories. He also discussed the fact that the CIA have since the 80’s hired informants posting as psychics to attend Hollywood parties and report back the the CIA on general trends and talking points.” http://www.prisonplanet.tv/video/120105haglundteaserwmbb.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/151205deanhaglund.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/161205Haglund.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/301205deanhaglund.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/171204haglund.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_lonegumen.html Recall also the news articles about psychic Jean Dixon being used by the Intel community to seed disinformation … AND … The Precognitive Visions of ParaPolitical Researcher Alex Jones Austin, Texas - Today marks only the second time this author has heard local radioshow host, parapolitical researcher and documentary filmmaker Alex Jones admit to his life-long history of prophetic, or precognitive, dreams. http://www.elfis.net/2006/05/15.html

Rumpl4skn wrote:

It suddenly all makes sense to me now. It’s all explainable by paranormal precognition.This is how the NeoCons knew about the ‘hijackings’ - they consulted psychics. No inside job, just inside information. And the multinationals don’t get advance market trend info from the monetary system handlers, they just ask Jean Dixon’s Granddaughter.Wow - there are just so many ways to innocently explain away these awful feelings I’ve had for the past 5 years. I can’t decide which one to wholeheartedly embrace first. We can all go home now. No crime, no foul.

Rumpl4skn, I’m suggesting nothing of the sort.As someone who researches anomalous information transfer (aka ESP) I can’t help but ask these questions.

While I see the scientific evidence for psi phenomena to be real and convincing, I cited examples of claims of intel operatives using claimed psychics for intel purposes.

My point is … despite the intriguing info uncovered by Fintan about THE COUP cover, it may be just as likely that someone like Boots is a creative minded person familiar with COINTELPRO covert ops etc enough to put these items in place in the cover album and there is no real psyop here. Then again, it could very well be so. I’ve worked for musicians and computer game designers and they are into conspiracy research, paranormal phenomena etc etc. so it’s not unreasonable to think it is at least possible that that is all that is involved in these many instances.

And since Fintan is someone who advances metaphysical discussions with his TreeIncarnations ideas (http://breakfornews.com/forum/index.php?c=2) I didn’t think it was unreasonable or distracting to point out this other info.

SMiles

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject:
Rumpl4skn wrote: elfis,Apologies if I was overly sarcastic there (I’m drinking half-decaf now). I’m just overloaded with the mind games I see being played in regards to 9/11, and I was (not so eagerly) awaiting when the paranormal card would be sincerely played, as I’m sure it will be increasingly used to pollute clear analysis, along with other non-debatable misdirections. I’m not suggesting you did that. I just value the integrity of this forum, and I’m leery of seeing aliens, holocaust denial or Uri Gellerisms to enter into the equations - despite what I’ve seen as the “Occam’s Razor” justification of such tripe on other boards. Call me old fashioned. Thanks Rumpl4skn. I am fully aware of the dangers and fears of folks regarding the ingression of the paranormal and UFOs into the debate. But as someone who came to know ParaPolitics Blvd by way of the other back alley of “para” research I can’t help but draw upon those years of research in my exploration of these topics. And I’ve been called a debunker and a believer by different folks in the same day … I’ve also been called a CIA agent on a few occassions but that comes with the territory. I really like Fintan’s approach, ideas and analysis generally. I often recommend him to folks for a “non-CIA Fakes” perspective. But I still find much of his analysis lacking definitive evidence as it mostly often hinges upon interpretation of the end results of the items being analyzed and … dare I say it … like para phenomena such analysis can be easily dismissed by others less fluent in the big-picture or without a proper context and level of background knowledge. Again, I try to keep my discussions of para subjects separate except when I decide to focus on either thru the lense of the other. But in the case of pre-conditioning imagery related to 911, as someone who studies “anomalies” I think it must be kept in mind that there ARE other possible factors at work that make difficult a definitive analysis of a supposed PsyOp like the COUP COVER unless we have extremely hard evidence for connections to psychological warfare operatives. Certainly Boots connections should be explored and certainly what Fintan has posted is suggestive of the need for further research. But I often wonder what Fintan’s views are on other areas such as parapsychology, remote viewing, etc. since he has at least occassionally passed verdict on everything from the nature of reality (with his TreeIncarnation series) to Crop Circles*. * = FIRST CONTACT: CHILBOLTON ET MESSAGE DECODED 24-27th August, 2001 http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/chilbolton_reply.htm http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/chilbolton_1999.htm http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/chilbolton_the_verdict.htm WAS CHILBOLTON AN ET CONTACT? THE VERDICT. by Fintan Dunne, coEditor PsyOpNews.com 6/7 September 2001 “With a military high-tech source unlikely, we turn in PART IV to the scalar techniques that an alien intelligence could have used to telepathically or mechanically beam the glyphs through hyperspace. Science fiction? Not, really. Based on our latest understanding of relativity and dark matter, its quite concievable. As we will see. CONTINUED IN PART IV SHORTLY” There was supposed to be a Part IV but then 911 happened and to my knowledge Fintan never completed that series. Fintan was going in some interesting directions … but perhaps this was just a prepatory piece before he busted the scam wide open a la the CIA FAKES ruse. Anway … thanks for the apologies. I’m sorry if I wasn’t more clear about my interests or intent in adding to this thread. SMiles

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Bush let’s slip about Controlled Misdirection, er Demolition
I didn’t see this Friday press conference but … for what it’s worth, he apparently read from his script and …Bush went on to say that the operatives of the planned attacks were instructed in the placement of explosives. Adding, as though it’s the clearest thing in the world, that Khalid disclosed the explosives were to detonate at “a point high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.” http://www.Rigint.blogspot.comWhiteHouse Transcript here:”For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high — a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.” Transcript Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html Looks like this 911Blogger has posted about it as well: BUSH: planted EXPLOSIVES inside WTC!! http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html 500kB mp3 audio snippet http://dc.indymedia.org/usermedia/audio/1/u2r2h–bush_explosives-15sep06.mp3 Real Media link to Bush’s Rose Garden Demolition Comments: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.v.html Saturday, September 16, 2006 Secret Agent Man There’s a man who leads a life of danger To everyone he meets he stays a stranger Parsing the statements of George Bush is of course handicapped by the man’s uncommon illiteracy, though when he sticks to his prepared texts we can get some indication of what his keepers want us to hear, even if Bush himself doesn’t know what he’s saying. Take, for one bizarre instance, the opening remarks to his Rose Garden news conference last Friday. In defence of torture and secret prisons he boasted of the “valuable information” obtained by the CIA from waterboarding “men like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed” (whose telephone conversations with Mohammed Atta, including final approval for the attacks on September 10, are known to have been monitored and translated by the NSA, but apparently not acted upon). <snip> But back to Bush and his Friday remarks: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high — a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping. Even allowing for the bell curve of his usual nonsense, what sense does this make? The Guardian transcript has Bush saying that Khalid “described the design of plane attacks,” rather than the official “planned attacks.” The video, available from the White House website, confirms “planned.” Perhaps the Guardian couldn’t quite believe what it was hearing. Because Bush went on to say that the operatives of the planned attacks were instructed in the placement of explosives. Adding, as though it’s the clearest thing in the world, that Khalid disclosed the explosives were to detonate at “a point high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.” Before we rush to judgement, believing Bush is letting it slip that the towers were demolished, watch the video. Bush isn’t riffing here; he isn’t straying from the prepared text. His remarks were crafted with care. So why would he be given such lines, which could so easily be construed by 9/11 skeptics as an inadvertant admission of controlled demolition? Perhaps because, as I believe was Rumsfeld’s intention when he “misspoke” of a “missile” striking the Pentagon the very week Thierry Meyssan launched his “no plane” website, that’s precisely where they want our attention, whether or not demolition is a fact. (And it will only be our attention, as the corporate press either don’t have the ears or the stomach for it.) So here’s the scene: the White House invoking invisible man Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to excite our imagination with an oddly-worded statement strongly suggestive of demolition, when our attention would be better rewarded by considering Khalid himself, his service to the ISI and the ISI’s service to US intelligence. But Bush will never be written the words to encourage such thoughts. Read entire post at www.Rigint.blogspot.com posted by Jeff at 8:04 PM

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject:
I often have used reference to the Northwoods docs as my entre to telling folks about 911 as Inside Job. However, I too have had my skeptical side piqued by the possibility that it could be purposeful mis/disinfo.I first heard about it via Bamford’s supposedly being tipped off to its existence by a friend and then his story of finding it in the archives.But as far as I know the only person to have written about it possibly being disinfo is Carol A. Valentine: Operation Northwoods: The Counterfeit by Carol A. Valentine Curator, Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum http://www.Public-Action.com Copyright, October, 2001 Excerpt: “The reviews were well in circulation, but still fresh when 9-11 hit. In retrospect, Northwoods seemed like an eery premonition. I thought the release of the Northwoods revelations were indeed a timely coincidence. Because the Northwoods scenario seemed to fit the facts of 9-11, many writers cited Bamford and Northwoods. I was one of them. But there is just one problem with Northwoods. Operation Northwoods was not written by Americans. Put in other words, Operation Northwoods documents were not written by the Pentagon. They are counterfeits.” http://www.public-action.com/911/northwds.html But just now … doing a little digging I find another article from the same period of time (October 2001) where the same author (Carol A. Valentine) is talking about (debuting ? starting pre Rumsfeld gaff?) the Global Hawk / No Plane at the Pentagon meme. Even more interesting is the location of this article … Fintan Dunne’s PsyOpNews.com site: Operation 911: NO SUICIDE PILOTS by nessie October 5 2001, Fri, 5:23pm by Carol A. Valentine / Curator, Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum http://eionews.addr.com/psyops/news/carolvalentine.htm Also, can anyone confirm Jeff Wells’ assertion: “And part of the cover-up of the Pentagon heist has been the no-plane shell game, played smartly by Rumsfeld himself who “misspoke” that a “missile” had struck the Pentagon the same week Thierry Meyssen’s original no-plane website was launched.” http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/06/flight-of-capital.html Curiouser and curiouser… SMiles

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject:
Not trying to hijack this thread but thought I’d answer my own question RE: Rumsfeld and Myssan’s Missile Theory originating in the same week:”It was first floated in early October 2001 by French author Thierry Meyssan and US War Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Monsieur Meyssan started a webpage that suggested a plane did not hit the Pentagon on October 7, and Rumsfeld gave an interview to Parade magazine on October 12 where he said a “missile” hit the Pentagon.” http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.htmlAnyway … on the main subject of the thread, I am still searching for any other articles out there exploring the Operation Northwoods as disinfo sub-meme. SMiles

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject:
Haven’t listened to the audio for this post yet. Not sure I want to.Like so many others, I’d really like Fintan to follow thru with some evidence for his CIA Fakes list as well as a Non-CIA Fakes site list. I don’t think either is too much to ask for. I certainly agree that most of the conspiracy sites out there are pushing FEAR but ya know what … fear is a valid human emotion that very often spurs people into action. It does get dull and draining day in and day out. But that alone does not qualify a website as being a CIA fake. As for this non-issue of PsyOps posters on RENSE dot com … Fintan, most of the posters you cite are from this very old gallery here: http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/PhotoAlbum1.html http://micahwright.com/bio.htm So if you want to prove your contention that these posters are part of a PsyOp why don’t you start by finding actual evidence that their creator is now or once was an intel assett. sMiles

moylan wrote:

Quote: They’re all facets of someone’s experience and worthwhile topics for discussion. That’s a value judgement, and not one with which many people would agree. They may strike some people as worthwhile topics for discussion, but not in the context of serious issues, which UFO sightings and abductions really aren’t. If you think that “political rants” are going to do any good, there must be some delusion virus circulating.

Yeah, that’s why Fintan keeps his metaphysical stuff on http://www.treeincarnation.com and not http://www.breakfornews.com and why I generally encourage keeping them seperate on my own websites. However, there can be much cross-over; for instance, it was my research into UFOs that lead me to ParaPolitics. As you research the govt and mils reactions to UFOs you immediately become aware of govt cover-ups and conspiracy and PsyOps. As you go from strictly UFO related research to Close Encounters and Abduction phenomena you inevitably come up against information about the CIA’s MK-Ultra programs and from their it’s a hop-skip-and-jump to full blown parapolitical intrigue. So the two can easily be linked and related. I don’t necessarily fault websites for mixing the two. I would more likely fault a website for HOW they mix the subjects.

I really like a lot of Fintan’s work, both his parapolitical and metaphysical stuff. I just am getting tired of him not following through (enough for my tastes) on his assertions about his CIA Fakes List. The commentary I see about this list from his readers seems more balanced and informed than his “evidence”. Like several of his skeptical fans, I keep waiting for more of his “research” and “evidence” to back his assertions.

I certainly agree on others’ analyses of the Fear Factor being manipulated to keep people from becoming activists but I think that same Fear Mongering CAN and DOES often motivate people to get involved or to atleast start asking more questions about everything.

I live in Austin and I’ve met Alex Jones several times and am not convinced that he is a paid agent. To the contrary, I think he is all too human and prone to human foibles … as is Fintan, myself and everyone else attempting to grapple with this increasingly Twilight Zonish surReality we find ourselves in.

Peace Out!

SMiles

One final note …I had forgotten this interesting fact - Fintan himself has used at least one of this artist’s Propaganda Redux Posters (or at least the source material and same idea) on his own site for at least a few years now … since at least February of 2003:
http://web.archive.org/web/20030202134947/http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com/

Goto Fintan Dunne dot com, scroll down to the Sick of Doctors website link.
http://www.fintandunne.com
There it is … you can click on the link to the Sick of Doctors website to see it again on that site’s entrance.

http://www.breakfornews.com/images/sickofdoctors.jpg

http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com
http://www.sickofdoctors.addr.com/images/sickofdoctors.gif

You can find the image that Fintan used here:

http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.cv/leperous/Sites/.Pictures/reporter.jpg-thumb_105_140.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/reporter.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/PhotoAlbum1.html
http://micahwright.com/bio.htm

So, I guess that makes Fintan a CIA FAKE and guilty of Fear Mongering PsyOps like Rense, Alex and the rest. <wink>

SMiles