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August 21, 2007 Former Chief of NIST’s Fire Science Division Calls for Independent Review of World Trade Center Investigation By Alan Miller
James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), has called for an independent review of NIST’s investigation into the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11. Dr. Quintiere made his plea during his presentation, “Questions on the WTC Investigations” at the 2007 World Fire Safety Conference. “I wish that there would be a peer review of this,” he said, referring to the NIST investigation. “I think all the records that NIST has assembled should be archived. I would really like to see someone else take a look at what they’ve done; both structurally and from a fire point of view.” “I think the official conclusion that NIST arrived at is questionable,” explained Dr. Quintiere. “Let’s look at real alternatives that might have been the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Towers and how that relates to the official cause and what’s the significance of one cause versus another.” Dr. Quintiere, one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers, also encouraged his audience of fellow researchers and engineers to scientifically re-examine the WTC collapses. “I hope to convince you to perhaps become ‘Conspiracy Theorists’, but in a proper way,” he said. In his hour-long presentation, Dr. Quintiere discussed many elements of NIST’s investigation that he found problematic. He emphasized, “In every investigation I’ve taken part in, the key has been to establish a timeline. And the timeline is established by witness accounts, by information from alarm systems, by any video that you might have of the event, and then by calculations. And you try to put all of this together. And if your calculations are consistent with some of these hard facts, then perhaps you can have some comfort in the results of your calculations. I have not seen a timeline placed in the NIST report.” Dr. Quintiere also expressed his frustration at NIST’s failure to provide a report on the third skyscraper that collapsed on 9/11, World Trade Center Building 7. “And that building was not hit by anything,” noted Dr. Quintiere. “It’s more important to take a look at that. Maybe there was damage by the debris falling down that played a significant role. But other than that you had fires burning a long time without fire department intervention. And firefighters were in that building. I have yet to see any kind of story about what they saw. What was burning? Were photographs taken? Nothing!” World Trade Center Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories, and would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane on 9/11, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 8 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11. In the 6 years since 9/11, NIST has failed to provide any explanation for the collapse. In addition to NIST’s failure to provide an explanation, absolutely no mention of Building 7’s collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission’s “full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.” [To watch a video of the collapse, click here http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/WTC7_Collapse.wmv ] Dr. Quintiere said he originally “had high hopes” that NIST would do a good job with the investigation. “They’re the central government lab for fire. There are good people there and they can do a good job. But what I also thought they would do is to enlist the service of the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives], which has an investigation force and a laboratory of their own for fire. And I thought they would put people out on the street and get gumshoe-type information. What prevented all of this? I think it’s the legal structure that cloaks the Commerce Department and therefore NIST. And so, instead of lawyers as if they were acting on a civil case trying to get depositions and information subpoenaed, those lawyers did the opposite and blocked everything.” In his presentation, Dr. Quintiere also criticized NIST’s repeated failures to formally respond to serious questions raised about its conclusions regarding the WTC building collapses and the process it employed to arrive at those conclusions. “I sat through all of the NIST hearings. I went to all of their advisory board meetings, as an observer. I made comments at all.” Responding to a comment from a NIST representative in the audience, Dr. Quintiere said, “I found that throughout your whole investigation it was very difficult to get a clear answer. And when anyone went to your advisory panel meetings or hearings, where they were given five minutes to make a statement; they could never ask any questions. And with all the commentary that I put in, and I spent many hours writing things, and it would bore people if I regurgitated all of that here, I never received one formal reply.” Although Dr. Quintiere was strongly critical of NIST’s conclusions and its investigatory process, he made it clear he was not a supporter of theories that the Twin Towers were brought down by pre-planted explosives. “If you go to World Trade Center One, nine minutes before its collapse, there was a line of smoke that puffed out. This is one of the basis of the ‘conspiracy theories’ that says the smoke puffing out all around the building is due to somebody setting off an explosive charge. Well, I think, more likely, it’s one of the floors falling down.” Dr. Quintiere summarized the NIST conclusion about the cause of the collapses of the Twin Towers. “It says that the core columns, uninsulated due to the fact that the aircraft stripped off that insulation; they softened in the heat of the fire and shortened and that led to the collapse. They pulled in the external columns and it caused it to buckle. They went on further to say that there would be no collapse if the insulation remained in place.” Dr. Quintiere then presented his and his students’ research that contradicts the NIST report and points to a different cause for the collapses; the application of insufficient fire-proofing insulation on the truss rods in the Twin Towers. “I suggest that there’s an equally justifiable theory and that’s the trusses fail as they are heated by the fire with the insulation intact. These are two different conclusions and the accountability for each is dramatically different,” he said. Dr. Quintiere’s presentation at the World Fire Safety Conference echoed his earlier statement to the U.S. House of Representatives, Committee on Science, on October 26, 2005, during a hearing on “The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps”, at which he stated: “In my opinion, the WTC investigation by NIST falls short of expectations by not definitively finding cause, by not sufficiently linking recommendations of specificity to cause, by not fully invoking all of their authority to seek facts in the investigation, and by the guidance of government lawyers to deter rather than develop fact finding. “I have over 35 years of fire research in my experience. I worked in the fire program at NIST for 19 years, leaving as a division chief. I have been at the University of Maryland since. I am a founding member and past-Chair of the International Association for Fire Safety Science—the principal world forum for fire research. … “All of these have been submitted to NIST, but never acknowledged or answered. I will list some of these. 1. Why is not the design process of assigning fire protection to the WTC towers fully called out for fault? … 2. Why were not alternative collapse hypotheses investigated and discussed as NIST had stated repeatedly that they would do? … 3. Spoliation of a fire scene is a basis for destroying a legal case in an investigation. Most of the steel was discarded, although the key elements of the core steel were demographically labeled. A careful reading of the NIST report shows that they have no evidence that the temperatures they predict as necessary for failure are corroborated by findings of the little steel debris they have. Why hasn’t NIST declared that this spoliation of the steel was a gross error? 4. NIST used computer models that they said have never been used in such an application before and are the state of the art. For this they should be commended for their skill. But the validation of these modeling results is in question. Others have computed aspects with different conclusions on the cause mechanism of the collapse. Moreover, it is common in fire investigation to compute a time-line and compare it to known events. NIST has not done that. 5. Testing by NIST has been inconclusive. Although they have done fire tests of the scale of several work stations, a replicate test of at least & [sic] of a WTC floor would have been of considerable value. Why was this not done? … 6. The critical collapse of WTC 7 is relegated to a secondary role, as its findings will not be complete for yet another year. It was clear at the last NIST Advisory Panel meeting in September [2005] that this date may not be realistic, as NIST has not demonstrated progress here. Why has NIST dragged on this important investigation?” [The full text of Dr. Quintiere’s statement to the Science Committee can be found at http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/science/hsy24133.000/hsy24133_0f.htm ] Dr. Quintiere is one of the world’s leading fire science researchers and safety engineers. He served in the Fire Science and Engineering Division of NIST for 19 years and rose to the position of Chief of the Division. He left NIST in 1990 to join the faculty of the Department of Fire Protection Engineering at the University of Maryland, where he still serves. Quintiere is a founding member and Past Chair of the International Association for Fire Safety Science (IAFSS). He is also a Fellow of the Society of Fire Protection Engineering and a Fellow of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. He has received numerous awards for his contributions to fire science research and engineering, including: · The Department of Commerce Bronze Medal (1976) and Silver Medal (1982) · The Howard W. Emmons Lecture Award from the IAFSS in 1986 · The Sjölin Award in 2002 for outstanding contribution to the science of fire safety by the International Forum of Fire Research Directors, NIST · The 2006 Guise Medal by the National Fire Protection Association His presentation “Questions on the WTC Investigations” was given twice at the 2007 World Fire Safety Conference; Education Session M21 on June 4 (69 minutes) and Spotlight Session T54 on June 5 (102 minutes). Recordings of the presentations can be purchased from the National Fire Protection Association at http://www.fleetwoodonsite.com For a list of over 180 other engineers and architects who question the official investigation into the events of 9/11, please visit http://PatriotsQuestion911.com Original Content at www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_070820_former_chief_of_nist.htm
Picknett, Lynn and Prince, Clive. The Stargate Conspiracy: The Truth About Extraterrestrial Life and the Mysteries of Ancient Egypt. New York: Berkley Books, 2001. 425 pages. What do Egyptology, the secrets of the pyramids, remote viewing, Freemasonry, Henry Wallace, NASA missions that return photographs that look like faces on Mars, New Age groups in California, the Gorbachev Foundation, Uri Geller, Aleister Crowley, L. Ron Hubbard, Edgar Cayce, ufology, and SRI International (formerly Stanford Research Institute) have in common? You may be surprised. Some of the same names run through many of these, and they have connections to U.S. intelligence. That’s what these authors call the “conspiracy.” It’s all apparently orchestrated by an elite group of elders that go back nearly fifty years, and are connected at the highest political levels. To what purpose? Well, it seems that “the conspirators are creating the perfect conditions for something to happen to effectively give them control over the masses — over us. As we have seen, this could amount to the return of the ancient gods [who may have built the pyramids], or — much more likely — merely empty promises and cynically manufactured expectations.” (p.331) The truth be known, at NameBase we’re new to all this esoterica. But we know a spook vibe when we feel one, and there are some noteworthy intelligence connections mentioned in this book.
9/11 Carbon Credit Murders for A Faculty of Fraud Synopsis: Invitation to dialog on “Carbon Credit Murders for A Faculty of Fraud” with David Hawkins, Captain Field McConnell, and Peter Tedesco, Forensic Economists at Hawks’ CAFE Open e-mail invitation sent July 23, 2007 to: Dr. Thomas Barnett, tom@thomaspmbarnett .com Senior Managing Director Enterra Solutions Washington Operations Center Enterra Solutions, LLC, 11955 Freedom Drive, Suite 7500 Reston, Virginia 20190 Tel: 571.336.0072 Dr. John M. Deutch jmd@mit.edu Department of Chemistry, MIT, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Room 6-215 Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139 USA Phone: (617) 253-1479 Invitation to dialog on “Carbon Credit Murders for A Faculty of Fraud” with David Hawkins, Captain Field McConnell, and Peter Tedesco, Forensic Economists at Hawks’ CAFE http://www.hawkscafe.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hawkscafe/ Copies: Representative Ron Paul, 14th. District of Texas, rep.paul@mail. house.gov, Representative Duncan Hunter, 52nd District of California bre@gohunter08. com Michael Badnarik, ‘Lighting the Fires of Liberty’ scholar@Constitutio nPreservation. org Alex Jones aaron@infowars. com Copies to file: Re: Carbon Credit Murders for A Faculty of Fraud DH: Peter, why did Saddam’s Oil-for-Food bank, Paribas, join the May 2000 war games pitting Dr. Barnett’s Naval War College or Dr. Deutch’s CIA agents against traders employed by Cantor Fitzgerald, Espeed and CO2e.com atop the North Tower? PT: [BNP] Paribas hired agents to infiltrate and surveil Cantor’s offices and subsidiaries for two reasons; first, to obtain intelligence about CO2e.com’s daily carbon offset and emissions trading operations and its security measures and, second, to learn how to use Espeed’s TreasuryConnect software and switch Cantor’s $70 trillion per year sovereign debt and CO2 trades to Paribas investors (including OBL and Saddam!). By 9/11, after months of war gaming, the agents had learned how to switch trades to Paribas and the kickback trustees of their own pension funds after a real-staged terror event. DH: Field, could Dr. John Deutch’s Raytheon-Thales and Citigroup-AMEC partnerships have placed incendiary-laden planes or Otis elevators just below Cantor Fitzgerald’s offices so that 652 victims would be burnt alive or forced to jump on 9/11 and help Dr. Barnett produce what he claims to be “the first live-broadcast mass snuff film in history”? FM: Yes, in fact either or both. I opine they did both for two reasons; greater probability of success and greater difficulty for crime scene investigators in the Ground Zero rubble, to determine the method of introduction of the two halves (Otis elevators and Boeing planes) of what are “binary incendiary cluster bombs”. Raytheon-Thales modified Boeing war game jets illegally with QRS11 GyroChips embedded in flight guidance hardware. On 9/11, Deutch’s backers guided the Boeing drones precisely into targeted floors and used AMEC sabotage tests to conceal the same type of explosives in elevator cars, elevator machinery room and elevator shafts at the floors hit by the Boeings. When private equity, profit and intelligence are mixed the product is treason and public carnage. DH: Peter, why were the NYC firefighters Motorola radios swapped out in Q1, 2001? Why did the repeater antenna on WTC#5 fail on 9/11? Why did Dr. Barnett bring 50 now-terrified FDNY senior officers to the US Naval War College in December 2001? PT: A media search shows the antiquated Motorola Saber III systems ‘failed’ on 9/11 and were reintroduced supposedly or only because the new Motorola XTS 3500 digital radios acquired by the NYPD were not available for the FDNY. On 9/11, the repeater control center originally located in WTC 5, was transferred to the lobbies of WTC 1 and 2 respectively. http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1-8Executive%20Summary.pdf . I suggest firefighters’ communications were sabotaged during bogus 9/11 war games in a deception operation staged for Barnett and Deutch by the Office of Naval Intelligence or the CIA. FDNY whistleblowers who knew of the ambush, the deception, the murder for hire and use of incendiaries to destroy evidence, then became targets for threats or bribes (pension fund kickbacks) at the meeting with Barnett (?) at the US Naval War College. DH: Peter, Barnett is a former professor of Marxism and knows nothing about global warming so was he hired to arrange war-game murders of Espeed staff and extort carbon credit traders to enrich BNP Paribas and its private-equity World Trade Center network? PT: To paraphrase Dr. Barnett, the ‘great struggle of the age’, whether it be the war on terror or global warming, is designated as such by its potential to further globalization. He makes it abundantly clear that he prefers to classify global warming as the overarching issue of the age because it is more pragmatic in achieving global transformation. Through this lens, we can then understand the rationale of his alleged employers on 9/11 - stage a terror attack and in the process, seize control of the carbon credit trading industry, a surely profitable market if the ‘great struggle of the age’ is to be global warming. http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/jul/15/barnett-ending-todays-crisis-easy-naming-tomorrows/ DH: Field, who could have coordinated the likes of Raytheon-Thales, AMEC-Citigroup, CAI-Carlyle Canada private equity groups, CIA, Naval War College and Boeing through assassinations, triphibious war games and event arbitrage or hedge fund frauds of 9/11? FM: Only people with access to virtual private networks and the common operational picture for both the red-team attackers and the blue-team defenders. By a process of elimination, I end up with Barnett and Deutch as principal suspects; Barnett used the Office of Naval Intelligence Detachment (ONI DET) and Deutch used MIT’s Center for Collective Intelligence to execute 9/11. DH: Peter and Field, is there enough evidence to indict Drs. Barnett and Deutch for securities fraud in respect of their apparent churning, insider/outsider trading and pump-and-dump of carbon credits and their apparent racketeering use of credits to pay for war-game murders of Espeed staff and share kickbacks with Paribas’ private-equity partners? PT: Well, incendiaries have destroyed much of that evidence needed by a jury beyond reasonable doubt to convict them for murder-for-hire operation where assassins are paid with carbon credit. I think however that we can win our claim for damages in a Federal civil court in respect of the 9/11 wrongful deaths and carbon credit frauds by showing that Drs. Barnett and Deutch are related through a RICO murder-for-hire enterprise. DH: Peter and Field, what message would you like to send to Drs. Barnett and Deutch? PT: We welcome their comments to ’show cause’ by e-mail or phone and would publish same to our readers, but I don’t anticipate this type of respnse to be forthcoming. FM: I would like to meet with you one-on-one or together and make a video recording to share with the American public your knowledge and interpretation of the events of 9/11. I can travel to any place at any time and date of your choosing. I warn you however that while the maxim of Hawks CAFE’s forensic economists is “Accuse no innocent. Shelter no guilty”, we intend to avenge the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans in general and, in particular, the murder of Chic Burlingame, my USNA classmate and the captain of AA77 who was killed by a conspiracy of cowards who appear to be in your faculty of friends on the morning of September 11, 2001. I suggest you invite your friends to the meeting to learn the difference between war gaming for carbon credits and warfare with their fellow citizens. Field McConnell, Tel: 218 329 2993 David Hawkins Tel: 604 542-0891 Notes: “Carbon Credit Murders for A Faculty of Fraud” “Ending today’s crisis as easy as naming tomorrow’s scarier one [related to alleged violations by Thomas Barnett of False Claims Act re fraudulent claims of links between CO2 emissions and global warming] By Thomas P.M. Barnett (Contact) Sunday, July 15, 2007 Read article here: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/jul/15/barnett- ending-todays- crisis-easy- naming-tomorrows / “List of Presentations Given [related to alleged violations by Thomas Barnett of False Claims Act re fraudulent claims of links between CO2 emissions and global warming] Our summary brief was presented to the following individuals/ entities (in addition to representatives from other organizations who attended one or more of our four workshops in 1998-1999): http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/projects/y2k/y2k_index.htm President and Provost, U.S. Naval War College (numerous times) Vice Chief of Naval Operations Under Secretary of the Navy (2X) N3/5 (Policy and Plans), OPNAV (2X) J7 Staff, Joint Staff National Contracts Management Association/ Rhode Island Chapter (2X) J38, Joint Staff J2 Y2K Planning Cell, Joint Staff Principle Deputy & Deputy Asst. Secretary of Defense for Command, Control, Communications & Intelligence (2X) University of Virginia (2X) Defense Intelligence Agency Central Intelligence Agency National Intelligence Council Y2K National Intelligence Estimate Team Cantor Fitzgerald LP (2X) Center for Naval Analyses (2X) Y2K National Contingency Planning Group, Government of Canada J2/J3 Staff of Joint Force Headquarters, Government of Canada Chief of Naval Operations, Republic of Turkey Staff , U.S. Senate Special Committee for the Year 2000 Technology Problem U.S. Atlantic Command Staff Department of Defense Intelligence Information Systems (DoDIIS) 1999 Global Conference Defense Intelligence Agency’s Directorate of Intelligence Operations Staff U.S. Central Command Staff Chief Information Officer, Department of Navy (2X) U.S. Information Agency International Y2K Staff U.S. Air Force Y2K Director National Security Council Senior Director and Staff U.S. Air Force Year 2000 Technical Exchange Meeting U.S. Southern Command Staff Electric Power Research Institute’s 6th Y2K Embedded Chip Workshop U.S. Special Operations Command Staff Deputy Commander-in- Chief , U.S. Central Command Assistant Secretary of Defense for Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence Principal Director, Year 2000, Office of ASD C3I Deputy Secretary of Defense Director, President’s Council for Year 2000 Conversion Information Coordination Center (and senior staff) Chair, President’s Council on Year 2000 Conversion The Arlington Institute The Industrial College of the Armed Forces Commander in Chief and Senior Command Officers, U.S. Special Operations Command U.S. Army Special Operations Command (USASOC) Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC) Naval Special Warfare Command (NSWC) Student Body and Teaching Staff , U.S. Naval War College Asst. Secretary of Navy, RD&A CINCUSNAVEUR Command Staff U.S. Agency for International Development USAID Bureau for Europe and Eurasia Y2K Consequence Management Workshop (representatives also from World Bank, Department of State, USAID Management Bureau, USAID Bureau for Humanitarian Response, and the Russian Republic Y2K Office) USAID-wide Y2K Consequence Management Workshop (representatives also from Department of State) Dept. of Navy Chief Information Officer Y2K Expert Forum Workshop Brainstorm National Year 2000 Symposium Series ( New York ) Brown University “Virtual Y2K” Conference USAID Administrator, Dep. Administrator, and all Assistant Administrators USAID Asia and Near East (ANE) Bureau Mission Directors Banking Industry Technology Secretariat/ The Bankers Roundtable Prof. Betty Sue Flowers, University of Texas Electronic Funds Transfer Association National Intelligence Council Executive Roundtable at Booz-Allen & Hamilton. http://www.thomaspm barnett.com/ projects/ y2k/y2k_index. htm In an analogy with the US army use of deception below, we allege that Dr. Barnett’s Naval War College, the Office of Naval Intelligence Detachment and the CIA office in WTC#7 were staffed to deceive and defraud civilians during the 9/11 war games. “Deception Staff Element A focal point for deception planning and execution is crucial to successful deception operations. At the joint force level, the deception staff element (DSE) plans, coordinates, and monitors deception operations. The DSE is headed by a deception officer who reports directly to the J3 . Other joint force staff members required to plan a particular deception are assigned to the DSE as needed. For example, the DSE should include representatives from the joint force special operations component (JFSOC) when it is part of the deception plan. In addition, representatives from the component staffs would participate in DSE activities as required. The DSE is responsible for — Planning deception activities based on the commander’s guidance — Coordinating deception operations among components — Monitoring ongoing operations in order to plan future deceptions — Integrating C3CM deception into overall theater campaign planning as requested by the C3CM planning cell. As members of the commander’s operational staff, DSE personnel are familiar with the commander’s desires, policies, and operational schemes. They function as a coordinated and integrated element to develop deception concepts and plans. The JFC designates DSE personnel based on expertise and the desired level of security. Generally, the three levels of DSE access are commander only, limited staff, and full staff. Commander Only - The JFC keeps the details of deception planning to himself. He implements deception through direct orders to his staff and subordinate commanders. The staff and component commanders are never fully aware of the JFC’s intentions. This technique has the advantage of high OPSEC and presents virtually all the support patterns of an actual commander’s plan. Potential disadvantages are — The lack of full staff expertise during planning and execution — The chance of the staff working at cross-purposes and degrading the effectiveness of the deception and the actual operation. Limited Staff - The JFC details limited numbers of personnel from the joint staff to assist the deception officer in planning. The deception officer coordinates the completed plan with selected joint staff section heads and components and sends the plan to the JFC for approval. Expeditious handling and good OPSEC are advantages of this technique. However, the plan may fail to take full advantage of the collective expertise of the entire joint staff. Full Staff - The JFC expands participation in the planning and execution to more elements of his staff. Additionally, deception officers from the component commands may also participate. This method uses the full resources and expertise of the joint and component staffs. Since more people are aware of the planned deception, OPSEC is more difficult.” http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm90-24/ch2.htm#2-1 incoherent, not enough context or background or even sourced information. my internship centers around carbon credit research, and I’m interested in this subject (and possible loose connections to 9/11) in lieu of the global financial industry’s interest in carbon markets (AIG, JP Morgan, etc.). I recently contributed to: “State of the Voluntary Carbon Markets 2007″ Hi there, I am sorry this posting was not detailed enough for you. Here is a summary of what we at http://www.hawkscafe.com believe occurred on 9/11 re: the Carbon Credit Trade. I hope this can boost your opinion of the post from a 1 to a 10!: Between May 2000 and September 2001, Dr. Thomas Barnett of the US Naval War College conducted “war games” with Cantor Fitzgerald and its emissions brokerage subsidiary CO2e.com. You can read about this in his own words here: http://www.knoxnews .com/news/ 2007/jul/ 15/barnett- ending-todays- crisis-easy- naming-tomorrows. Now, as all of us know, Cantor Fitzgerald lost 650+ employees on 9/11 when the first drone struck the North Tower. In the process, the brokerage business of CO2e.com ended up in the custody of BNP Paribas. We allege that Dr. Barnett was commissioned by Paribas agents to infiltrate Cantor’s operations in the run up to 9/11 to guarantee a smooth seizure of assets. By 9/11, after months of war gaming, the agents had learned how to switch trades to Paribas and the kickback trustees of their own pension funds after a real-staged terror event. Three of Dr. Barnett’s US Naval War College Colleagues signed the infamous PNAC document. In addition, he has referred to 9/11 as the “”first live-broadcast, mass snuff film in human history.” I encourage you to join our ongoing discussion and pursuit of justice at [[http://www.hawkscafe.com]] where you can sign up to our yahoo group. interesting stuff here: I’ve been aware of Hawks cafe since Valis initially hosted his site. The investigations are interesting, however a lot it is often speculation based on loose association of certain entities and their actions. When I get out of work today, I’ll definitely give this a closer look.
9/11: DAVID RAY GRIFFIN (Authorized Version) 30mar2006 Notes: This lecture was delivered March 30, 2006, to a sell-out crowd of over 800 people at Grand Lake Theater in Oakland, California for Progressive Democrats of the East Bay. Over 100 people were unable to enter because the seating capacity had been reached. Abbreviated versions of it were given in San Francisco for the Democratic World Federalists on April 2 and the Commonwealth Club on April 3. Download MP3 file of lecture as broadcast by KMUD that evening Although I am a philosopher of religion and theologian, I have spent most of my time during the past three years on 9/11—studying it, writing about it, and speaking about it. In this lecture, I will try to make clear why I believe this issue worthy of so much time and energy. I will do this in terms of the distinction between myth and reality. I am here using the term “myth” in two senses. In one sense, a myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false, failing to correspond with reality. In a deeper sense, which is employed by students of religion, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizing story for a people, a story that reminds them who they are and why they do what they do. When a story is called as a myth in this sense—which we can call Myth with a capital M—the focus is not on the story’s relation to reality but on its function. This orienting and mobilizing function is possible, moreover, only because Myths with a capital M have religious overtones. Such a Myth is a Sacred Story. However, although to note that a story functions as a Myth in the religious sense is not necessarily to deny its truth, a story cannot function as a Sacred Myth within a community or nation unless it |