May
06
911 PreCog
Filed Under (Alex Jones, Fintan Dunne, ForeKnowledge, PreCog, SMiles) by admin on 06-05-2007

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=734&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject:  
Fintan, I’m sure you are familiar with parapsychology research and precognition phenomena.While I find your analysis of The Coup cover to be worthy of consideration, how do you weigh the possibilities between a PsyOp and a PsiOp?I know at least 3 people who personally had what most would conisder precognitive dreams of 911 either the morning of the event or in weeks prior.

In my research on “911 fore-knowledge” I’ve found lots of evidence for paranormal and parapolitical presentiment of the attacks:

DreamPodcast #2 - Premonitions of 911:
http://www.elfis.net/phorum/read.php?f=3&i=44&t=44

Paranormal instances range from precog dreams, waking visions, to the parapsychological data from scientists like Dean Radin and the Global Consciousness Project folks at noosphere.princeton.edu and other examples. The previously mentioned album covers as well as other artistic expressions have also been noted.

Parapolitical instances of witnesses / evidence indicating probable fore-knowledge include parapolitical researcher John Judge’s fellow researcher and American Airlines stewardess, “T. Carter”, who says she saw the hijackers casing her plane before 911. The previously cited John Woods example has been around since 2002 and note that Woods was “rewarded” for his support of the MSM 911 Myth by his getting to play the role of Rudolph Gulliani in the post-911 made for tv movie about the mayor.

Anyway … here are a couple of posts I did some time back about the intersection of “real” precognitive 911 stuff and the possibilities inherant in the knowledge that Intel agencies have used both “real” and fake psychics as outlets for disinfo:

Re: The Lone Gunmen Prophecy
Hi Kenn (Thomas),

I absolutely agree with your assertion that these shows have stolen
ideas from the research of you and our mutual friends. Having worked
at the computer game company ORIGIN Systems ten years ago I know very
well that there are Forteans and ParaPolitically minded creative
types within the industry who get their inspiration from the pages of
yours and others books and research.

And I wasn’t suggesting one had to be psychic to precognitively grok
the planes into buildings meme. I was simply citing evidence that
suggests that psychics (whether real or fake) have been used as
intelligence assetts by the US Govt to seed disinfo and to gain info
from their confidantes and clients:

“Psychic Jeane Dixon Was FBI Stooge”
http://lists.village.virginia.edu/lists_archive/sixties-l/2335.html
[I have the archived html and FOIA docs saved at home)

I’m well aware of the pre-911 imagery and news reports involving
planes as missiles and planes into buildings:

“A man, drives a plane, into the Chrysler building” - Lyric from the
song “Is Chicago, Is Not Chicago” by the band Soul Coughing, released
in September 1994.
http://www.parapolitics.info/media/911podcast050826.mp3

Hip Hop Band THE COUP album cover (no planes)
http://www.elfis.net/images/911images/coup-cover-300.jpg

This suggestive German album cover (with planes near WTC)
http://www.elfis.net/images/911images/foreseeing_the_future.jpg

And this suggestive Pre-911 Computer game box fro “RED ALERT 2″
(with planes near WTC)
http://www.parapolitics.info/images/ra2box_0002pre911.jpg

The various pre 911 “WTC as Target” report covers
http://www.parapolitics.info/images/wtctargetpre911.jpg

The Austin, Texas based Steve Jackson Games pre 911 “Illuminati” card
game cards
http://www.parapolitics.info/images/911/WTCcardgame.jpg
http://www.parapolitics.info/images/911/wtcpentagoncardgame.jpg

And this cartoonists bit (not sure if this is pre 911)
http://www.parapolitics.info/images/911/wtc.gif

I’ve also seen pics of a calendar that was printed in Asia that
featured a drawing of a plane flying towards the twin towers and of
course there is this strange pic on a refridgerator in a GE advert
from an Italian magazine circa April 2001:
http://www.metatech.org/Images/ge-ad.gif

There was also the November 1993 Hustler Magazine pic obviously
inspired by the first WTC (FBI enabled) attack:
http://www.metatech.org/Images/WTC%20&%201993%20Hustler%20Mag.jpg

However, I am unaware of any Bruce Willis movies dealing with that
theme directly (The first Die Hard movie featured helicopters
accidentally slamming into buildings, as did The Matrix and other
films. Die Hard 2 featured the switching of transponders to cause
airliners to crash which is apparently an old intel trick).

SMiles

AND …

The thing about this Lone Gunmen pilot episode is that nearly
precisely mirrors at least one varient of the 911 conspiracy theory:
that the planes were remotely piloted in a false flag “terror attack”
whose impetus was American Police State and American Hegemony at the
behest of the MICkey Complex.

And according to actor Dean Haglund, he was told by Chris Carter that
a Hollywood psychic had fessed up to being used by Intel assets to
seed hollywood writers with script ideas:

“Haglund stated that after years of writing the X-files, the FBI and
NASA would approach Chris Carter with plots for stories. He also
discussed the fact that the CIA have since the 80’s hired informants
posting as psychics to attend Hollywood parties and report back the
the CIA on general trends and talking points.”
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/video/120105haglundteaserwmbb.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/151205deanhaglund.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/161205Haglund.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/301205deanhaglund.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/171204haglund.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/multimedia_priorknowledge_lonegumen.html

Recall also the news articles about psychic Jean Dixon being used by
the Intel community to seed disinformation …

AND …

The Precognitive Visions of ParaPolitical Researcher Alex Jones

Austin, Texas - Today marks only the second time this author has heard local radioshow host, parapolitical researcher and documentary filmmaker Alex Jones admit to his life-long history of prophetic, or precognitive, dreams.
http://www.elfis.net/2006/05/15.html
Rumpl4skn wrote:
It suddenly all makes sense to me now. It’s all explainable by paranormal precognition.This is how the NeoCons knew about the ‘hijackings’ - they consulted psychics. No inside job, just inside information. And the multinationals don’t get advance market trend info from the monetary system handlers, they just ask Jean Dixon’s Granddaughter.Wow - there are just so many ways to innocently explain away these awful feelings I’ve had for the past 5 years. I can’t decide which one to wholeheartedly embrace first.

We can all go home now. No crime, no foul. Shocked

Rumpl4skn, I’m suggesting nothing of the sort.As someone who researches anomalous information transfer (aka ESP) I can’t help but ask these questions.

While I see the scientific evidence for psi phenomena to be real and convincing, I cited examples of claims of intel operatives using claimed psychics for intel purposes.

My point is … despite the intriguing info uncovered by Fintan about THE COUP cover, it may be just as likely that someone like Boots is a creative minded person familiar with COINTELPRO covert ops etc enough to put these items in place in the cover album and there is no real psyop here. Then again, it could very well be so. I’ve worked for musicians and computer game designers and they are into conspiracy research, paranormal phenomena etc etc. so it’s not unreasonable to think it is at least possible that that is all that is involved in these many instances.

And since Fintan is someone who advances metaphysical discussions with his TreeIncarnations ideas (http://breakfornews.com/forum/index.php?c=2) I didn’t think it was unreasonable or distracting to point out this other info.

SMiles

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post

Rumpl4skn wrote:
elfis,Apologies if I was overly sarcastic there (I’m drinking half-decaf now). I’m just overloaded with the mind games I see being played in regards to 9/11, and I was (not so eagerly) awaiting when the paranormal card would be sincerely played, as I’m sure it will be increasingly used to pollute clear analysis, along with other non-debatable misdirections.

I’m not suggesting you did that. I just value the integrity of this forum, and I’m leery of seeing aliens, holocaust denial or Uri Gellerisms to enter into the equations - despite what I’ve seen as the “Occam’s Razor” justification of such tripe on other boards.

Call me old fashioned. Wink

Thanks Rumpl4skn. I am fully aware of the dangers and fears of folks regarding the ingression of the paranormal and UFOs into the debate. But as someone who came to know ParaPolitics Blvd by way of the other back alley of “para” research I can’t help but draw upon those years of research in my exploration of these topics.

And I’ve been called a debunker and a believer by different folks in the same day … I’ve also been called a CIA agent on a few occassions but that comes with the territory.

I really like Fintan’s approach, ideas and analysis generally. I often recommend him to folks for a “non-CIA Fakes” perspective. But I still find much of his analysis lacking definitive evidence as it mostly often hinges upon interpretation of the end results of the items being analyzed and … dare I say it … like para phenomena such analysis can be easily dismissed by others less fluent in the big-picture or without a proper context and level of background knowledge.

Again, I try to keep my discussions of para subjects separate except when I decide to focus on either thru the lense of the other. But in the case of pre-conditioning imagery related to 911, as someone who studies “anomalies” I think it must be kept in mind that there ARE other possible factors at work that make difficult a definitive analysis of a supposed PsyOp like the COUP COVER unless we have extremely hard evidence for connections to psychological warfare operatives. Certainly Boots connections should be explored and certainly what Fintan has posted is suggestive of the need for further research.

But I often wonder what Fintan’s views are on other areas such as parapsychology, remote viewing, etc. since he has at least occassionally passed verdict on everything from the nature of reality (with his TreeIncarnation series) to Crop Circles*.

* = FIRST CONTACT: CHILBOLTON ET MESSAGE DECODED
24-27th August, 2001

http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/chilbolton_reply.htm
http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/chilbolton_1999.htm
http://www.eionews.addr.com/psyops/chilbolton_the_verdict.htm

WAS CHILBOLTON AN ET CONTACT? THE VERDICT.
by Fintan Dunne, coEditor PsyOpNews.com
6/7 September 2001

“With a military high-tech source unlikely, we turn in PART IV to the scalar techniques that an alien intelligence could have used to telepathically or mechanically beam the glyphs through hyperspace. Science fiction? Not, really. Based on our latest understanding of relativity and dark matter, its quite concievable. As we will see.

CONTINUED IN PART IV SHORTLY”

There was supposed to be a Part IV but then 911 happened and to my knowledge Fintan never completed that series. Fintan was going in some interesting directions … but perhaps this was just a prepatory piece before he busted the scam wide open a la the CIA FAKES ruse.

Anway … thanks for the apologies. I’m sorry if I wasn’t more clear about my interests or intent in adding to this thread.

SMiles

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